Recruiting again!

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    5773
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    Recruiting again!

    Post by 5773 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:36 am

    Thats the good news.
    The bad news is if you're a white, hetrosexual male, you need not bother to apply.........

    The NZ Police are looking to recruit between 160 to 240 frontline staff from July 2012 to June 2013.

    Deputy Commissioner Viv Rickard says, "To ensure Police remains responsive to the needs of all New Zealanders we're looking to attract a broad range of young applicants to the job. We're particularly looking for young women, Maori, Pasifika, Indian, Asian and African people who want to do something extraordinary to help our communities."
    http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/32213.html
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    Mattz
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    Post by Mattz on Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:14 pm

    Tell me about it
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    Sam
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    Post by Sam on Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:18 am

    Indeed. I popped into recruiting about 2 months ago in Auckland and asked if I put my name down to go sworn (Male European, 25 years) was told I'd be looking at 2 ~ 2.5 years. I asked what the realistic answer was for that timeframe and got told it'd be closer to 3 years, potentially even 3.5 :/
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    Post by 5773 on Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:06 am

    I am sure they will get some very fine applicants. I am also sure they will get some not so fine applicants that they will try to shoe-horn in.
    I was given a fresh-out-of-the-college graduate once, a stunningly beautiful Maori lass who seemed to have every attribute required except one - she was dyslexic. She could not put two words together to make sense on a 258 - just a meaningless jumble.
    For an organisation that runs on paper, I found it absolutely unbelievable! I thought she should have fallen at the first hurdle - recruiting - as I know a Caucasian would have.
    As was obviously going to happen, she was gone in a couple of months. It was not fair on her, nor was it fair to a possible applicant whose place she usurped at college.

    I really hope the bar is not lowered in such a fashion for this lot!

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    Post by JD on Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:43 am

    Yeah its frustrating, i just got in the candidate pool but i know its going to be a long wait as i am 25 and white and male!
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    Post by Mattz on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:09 am

    25 years old should be ok mate!
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    Post by musashi on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:18 pm

    I think that it is the same around the western world. Apparently we aim for a 40% per squad of female recruits. Trouble is, as 5773 has written often, to meet the 'quota' the standards are dropped and, surprise surprise many of them either move into specialised units soon after training or disappear on maternity leave and take 5 years off only to return as supervisors!
    Recent case, young girl just out of college, first fight on the street and had her shirt ripped. Has now been off on stress leave over the incident for the last 3 months placing extra stress and pressure on her colleagues.

    Funnily enough, in the real world, it's not as simple as "the Bill".
    'Ullo, ullo, you're knicked me ole china' followed by
    "you got me guvnor".
    Some baddies do fight back. If you're not willing to accept that don't apply.

    that being said, 2 or 3 years is a ridiculous time to wait. 3 or so months is more the norm for Aussie police forces.
    cheers
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    Post by Johnno on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:11 am

    Just tell 'em you have a Maori/Pacific Islander/Asian great great great grand something and that'll probably help.
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    Post by musashi on Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:22 am

    Purely out of interest what does a trainee connie recive during training and what do they recieve after graduation for the first couple of years on the road?
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    Post by 5773 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:30 am

    http://www.careers.govt.nz/default.aspx?id0=60103&id1=j44121
    Seems reasonably accurate, from what I recall.
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    Post by musashi on Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:20 pm

    Thanks for that 5773. I guess that it is much the same as over here. We get more during the training period however looks much the same once you come of of the training college.
    Here we also have plenty of overtime available plus a housing allowance which is a significant amount at the end of the day.
    cheers
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    Post by 5773 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:30 am

    Unless things have changed, no housing these days, unless going to a one man station. May get an allowance as second cop in 2 man station. Cop in charge usually has Police house. Not sure these days, but think houses are charged out at moderate to low rental.

    I lived in a police house in Maraenui Napier in the late 80's. The suburb that housed the lower socio-economic group, to put it politely. I must say, I never had any problems there, but living there always felt like standing next to an unexploded IED.
    Once again I stand to be corrected - may have changed - but to get paid any overtime beyond that loaded into ones salary, you have to work "X" numbers of hours over in any given pay period. We found that the rostered days off seemed carefully designed to prevent this from happening. We may have worked a lot over on a night shift, but then went straight into 3 days off. Suspect
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    Post by Sam on Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:39 am

    Some stations in NZ attract a 'hard-to-fill' allowance and (for some) the possibility of a Police house. Tend to be rural or out of the way areas.
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    Post by Sam on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:49 am

    Just heard that the last wing for the year has already been selected to go the College (or is/has started. Can't remember which.)

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