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    Kakapo
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    Post by Kakapo Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:07 am

    Hi all, just wondering if anyone knows if there is a high/low demand for motorcycle cops and how that system works, any insight would be great!
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    Post by Johnno Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:19 am

    What do you mean by "system"?
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    Post by musashi Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:45 am

    High turnover ? Motorbike cops are a waste of time. They can only pick on the easy targets as they can't make high risk arrests and, even on the rare occasions that they do make an arrest need urgent backup to deal with the angry cyclist they caught not wearing a helmet distracting real coppers from doing their job.
    just my opinion
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    Post by LEO Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:48 am

    I always wanted to be Poncherello. Embarassed
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    Post by Johnno Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:44 am

    A bit of a harsh opinion I think musashi.

    Their traffic dedicated of course, and can get through rush hour traffic to a MVC/RTA a lot quicker than a patrol car!

    Yes, they can't bring a K9 back to the station but their not there to do that.
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    Post by Toolman Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:41 am

    ...a waste of time. They can only pick on the easy targets as they can't make high risk arrests and, even on the rare occasions that they do make an arrest need urgent backup to deal with the angry cyclist they caught not wearing a helmet distracting real coppers from doing their job.

    Gee Musashi - you could make that observation of a great number of sworn officers Laughing especially those with pips on their shoulders!!

    Unforunately, it's often the hard-working troops that are the easy targets...for not wearing their hats...and bosses are very good at distracting others from doing their job!

    Bikes are great for CBD type enforcement (coz you can't park a car there), and awesome on motorcades and the like for covering the intersections.
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    Post by musashi Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:08 am

    A bit of a harsh opinion I think ....a K9 back to the station but their not there to do that.
    Maybe,just my inherent dislike of traffic cops showing through. They seem to be a (low)breed of their own.

    I'm currently on leave and we have just completed a Brisbane- Cairns road trip. Got pinged for speeding (115 in a 100 zone). Remote country with not another car to be seen however had to put up with the officious lecture from some traffic nazi telling me how dangerous it was to be driving at such a ridiculous speed. I felt that he was such an embarassment of the uniform that I didn't want to be associated by telling him I was also in the job.

    I remember from kiwi copper mates when MOT and NZPol combined how REAL cops used to look down on traffic with such disdain.

    I know several traffic enforcement cops and if you ask them how many tickets they have written out they are quick to tell, usually in the thousands and mostly to cyclists and old ladies (who won't fight back).
    Ask them how many times they've responded to other members' 'back up' calls and all of a sudden they go quiet.

    Now you've got me going!!
    Not so long ago I was responding to a call for urgent back up from a GDs unit. I got pinged by a traffic unit while I was doing over 140kph in a built up area driving to assist (incredibly they later tried to serve me with a speeding ticket!!)Did traffic respond? Nahh stupid question, were too busy monitoring the speed of the other units attending the urgent back up call to get dirty.

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    Post by Johnno Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:04 am

    Maybe in Aussie you get that musashi, from what I've experienced here HP or Motorways staff are always keen to assist. (Having been backed up by them at numerous jobs.)

    Perhaps this conversation should be moved out of the public area.
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    Post by musashi Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:07 am

    OOPs. mea culpa. Thought that this forum was closed.

    By the way just back to my Wakatane post, pack horse Crays aren't protected are they??? if so, I didn't take a single one and no.. they aren't delicious!

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